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Second Chances Part 2 | A Juvenile Lifers Story

Part 2 of this amazing story is here!

In June 2016, Andrew Hundley became the FIRST juvenile lifer in Louisiana to be paroled following the U.S. Supreme Court’s Miller and Montgomery decisions that prohibited the mandatory sentencing of children to life without parole. It was clear that he was not the same 15-year-old who went to prison in 1997 to the parole board who approved his release.

Since his release from Angola, Andrew has earned a Masters degree in Criminology, is founder of the Louisiana Parole Project and is known in all circles of justice as the real life Andy Dufrane.

Whatever side of this issue you sit, you will not want to miss this episode.

In this episode Woody and Jim sit down with him for an in depth interview you are not going to believe on Bloody Angola Podcast.

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Louisiana Parole Project website:

https://www.paroleproject.org/

Check out P2P Podcast (Penitentiaries to Penthouses) Here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-p2p-podcast-penitentiaries-2-penthouses/id1646270646?i=1000586120763

SECOND CHANCES PART 2 TRANSCRIPT

Jim: Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another edition of Bloody- Woody: -Angola.

Jim: A podcast 142 years in the making.

Woody: The Complete Story of America's Bloodiest Prison.

Jim: I'm Jim Chapman.

Woody: I'm Woody Overton.

Jim: And we're back for Part 2, Woody Overton.

Woody: Part 2, Second Chances with our main man.

Jim: Andrew Hundley. How are you?

Andrew: I'm well.

Jim: I feel like we just talked to you. [laughs]

Andrew: Thanks for having me back.

Woody: Yeah, [crosstalk] right. Andrew, I just want to say that it's an amazing story, y'all. You've got to go listen to Part 1. I don't think we've maybe done one or two series on Bloody Angola that-- actually series, one or two episodes that went past episode 1.

Jim: The only one that we did was Archie Williams.

Woody: No. Brent Miller.

Jim: Yeah.

Woody: So, two, you'll be the third. Thank you for being here, I really appreciate it. Y'all go back and listen to the first one if you haven't.

Jim: Yes, please do.

Woody: When we left off last, you were at state police barracks out at JESTC, and you got

to finish telling me how you got swung.

Andrew: Yeah, I had unauthorized female visitor, to keep it PG. [laughter]

Andrew: I had a female friend who visited me at the office I worked at one evening. I knew that wasn't supposed to happen. It happened. And I understand that you keep visitors off of the premises because you never know who's going to be coming out there, what they're going to be bringing out there.

Jim: I ain't hating on it. I don't blame you. [laughs]

Woody: [crosstalk]

Andrew: [crosstalk] -I'm not the first guy to get in trouble and probably not going to be the

last guy that got into that kind of trouble. Jim: Some things are just worth it. [laughs]

Woody: Everybody you see today and the rest of your life got there because two people had sex.

[laughter]

Andrew: But it was against the rules. They actually didn't move me immediately because my job that I had--

Woody: They didn’t want to release you.

Andrew: I had to finish some job responsibilities. But they said, "Hey, you're going to have to

go." I said, "I want to go to Angola."

Jim: And wow. Before you say anything else, that's just like-- Woody: You're one of the only people ever said that--[crosstalk] Jim: Yeah, you might be the only one to utter that sentence.

Andrew: Well, and I recognize and I had done enough time and met enough people who had been to Angola and who, in prison speak, were successful at Angola. They had done well. And I wanted to be a trustee. At state police barracks, I was a trustee but the only place as a lifer going if we say back into DOC, I couldn't go to DCI or Wade or Hunt or any of these other prisons [crosstalk] have to go to Angola.

Jim: What year was this?

Andrew: Oh, that was in 2012, 2013. Jim: So, it was post Burl Cain? Andrew: No, Burl was still there. Woody: Burl was still there.

Jim: Okay.

Andrew: When I first get there, I actually go to Bass. For my first couple of months, I was a cell block orderly at Bass, paying my penance. As soon as I got there, they told me, "Look, keep your nose clean, out of sight, out of mind for a couple of months, and we've got a job for you." They told me this as soon as I got there.

Woody: That's really cool.

Jim: Your reputation preceded you some way probably.

Woody: Another unique thing about what you're saying is, I don't think people understand-- I would say you might have a better number on than me. Most people at Angola are never

getting out, like 80% or something like that. But to go in and have to do 10 years to make trustee without a low court or high court writeup, holy shit, bro, that's almost impossible. So basically, they're telling you, "Keep your nose clean, lay low for a couple of months and you shake it o...